Re: Fwd: Re: [OT] Israeli hosting

From: Gilad Ben-Yossef (gilad_at_nonexisting.hamakor.org.il)
Date: Thu 20 May 2004 - 13:26:22 IDT


On Thursday 20 May 2004 12:53, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> Not quite. With all these solutions, you're paying for:
> 1 Your share of the hardware
> 2 Your share of the sysadmining costs
> 3 Your share of electricity and physical space
> 4 Your usage of bandwidth,
>
> Now, let's compare:
>
> Virtual hosting: costs 1,2,3 very small because they are shared among many
> people using the same server (hundreds or even thousands
> users per machine).
> Cost 4 is relatively low because with virtual hosting
> you're typically assumed to be a relatively small site.

I don't agree with this last assertion, but I don't think it makes a big
change.

>
> Dedicated server: costs 1,2 are zero, cost 3 high, cost 4 high
>
> VPS: costs 1,2,3 relatively high because shared among only a
> few (probably not more than 10) clients. Cost 4 high.
>

No, cost 2 is practicly non existent - each user manages his own VPS alone.

Moreover, in real life a dedicated server has admin costs - even if only to
reboot the server from time to time, which is much lower for VPS, where such
things are managed in software by the end user (since it's a virtual reboot).

Also, a VPS has much lower inital provisioning costs (copy a bunch of files
from a tempalte) versus the bring up of a new hardware machine, connection to
network and placement in rack that a dedicated server has. In fact the
provision cost and time of a VPS solution is O(provisioning cost of virtual
hosting) :-)

In addition, in your own words cost 4 is 1/10 of the same cost for a dedicated
hosting.

Thus, we get:

VPS: cost 1,3 high, cost 2 practicly zero and cost 4 is low (1/10 of dedicated
server).

> So I don't understand why you claim that VPS should cost between Virtual
> hosting and Dedicated hosting. In fact, according to my analysis above it
> should be the most expensive solution, because costs of all type are high.

Perhaps, much more to the point - the price of a good or service is determined
by how much people are willing to pay for it and therefore by the precieved
qualities it has.

Common perceptions sees VPS as a point between virtual hosting to dedicated
server and whether that has any rational base in relaity or not is not
important - in reaql life in the world the price point of VPS services is as
I described.

Cheers,
Gilad

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