From: Arik Baratz (arikb_at_nonexisting.hamakor.org.il)
Date: Thu 03 Apr 2003 - 11:16:30 IDT
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shachar Shemesh [mailto:linux-il_at_shemesh.biz]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:48 PM
> To: Arik Baratz
> Cc: linux-il_at_linux.org.il
> >Received: from marco.bezeqint.net (marco.bezeqint.net
> [192.115.106.37])
> > by mail.vidius.co.il (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCBD70026
> > for <hostmaster_at_vidius.co.il>; Wed, 2 Apr 2003
> 12:32:36 +0000 (UTC)
> >
> >
> There are several other alternatives to that conclusion. Only a full
> scale analysis of ALL headers can give an acurate answer. One
> possible
> tool is called "spamcop", at spamcop.net. I would use that to analyze
> the email.
Shachar, I'm in this business for a loooong time. This is spam from my ISP, advocating my ISP's services, and this single piece of header is just the most incriminating one. SpamCop-style header analyzers sometime make mistakes when spam mailers add their own fake "Received:" lines. I've seen some naaasty tricks.
> >It is clear that the address this message was sent to,
> hostmaster_at_vidius.co.il, was harvested from the ISOC
> database, in contradiction with their terms and conditions. I
> have never given this address in any other opportunity.
> >
> What was the spam selling? If it were, indeed, sent by bezeqint, it
> would probably send something by bezeqint. Maybe they have some
> vulnerability that is being exploited.
Nah, it was selling BezeqInt services. Believe me, if I go out accusing someone of spamming I am damn sure.
> >My question is: If you complain to the ISP when you are
> spammed by someone in their address range, who do you
> complain to when the ISP spams you? Is there a higher body
> which controls what the ISPs in Israel can or can't do? Is
> the ISP's upstream provider the only avenue for my complaint?
> >
> Probably, unless you want to try out civil action according to the
> junk-fax law.
I have the junk fax law here in front of me. The problem is that to do that I need to enlist the support of my company and our lawyers, something that they will be reluctant to participate in. They'd rather I just delete it.
-- Arik
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