From: Shachar Shemesh (linux-il_at_nonexisting.hamakor.org.il)
Date: Tue 27 Jan 2004 - 14:22:35 IST
Check out the ongoing saga at http://www.consumer.org.il
Lior Okman wrote:
>
> Count me in.
>
> Same issue, different bank, does anybody have any success with Leumi's
> web site?
>
>
> Lior
>
>
> Alex Gontmakher wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> If anybody of you have tried to access the Discountbank.net web site
>> (for online account access), you would surely notice that it accepts
>> connections originated from Internet Explorer only. That's quite a
>> problem for Linux users - it wouldn't even try to communicate with
>> Mozilla ;-(.
>>
>> I have tried to contact the bank technical support on this issue, and
>> got a response stating that "Since the Internet Explorer is the mostly
>> used browser, we don't support any others. In the future the bank will
>> discuss working with additional browsers".
>>
>> Have any of you tried to access that site, or would you like to do it?
>> It's very convenient, and it's a shame to have a Windows installation
>> around just for this (and yes, yes, I know about Wine... not working
>> very well for me unfortunately).
>>
>> Now this problem is not specific to Discount bank - there are many
>> others that not only make the minimal effort to communicate with non-IE
>> browsers, but specifically go forward and make them IE-only. That's no
>> way to promote Mozilla in particular and Linux in general!!!
>>
>> What we can do is collect some amount of signatures and contact the bank
>> again, showing that the interest in the site is not from several people
>> only. And then, we can probably write to something like "Captain
>> Internet" of Haaretz for more exposure.
>>
>> So, if you want to get this site, and probably others, to work with
>> Mozilla browsers, write me and we'll roll this on!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> P.S. Below is the approximate text that I'd like to send to the
>> webmasters (probably in Hebrew). Comments welcome.
>>
>> Dear webmaster of <site name here>!
>>
>> We have tried to access your site using the Mozilla browser, and got the
>> response stating that "The site is designed to work with Internet
>> Explorer only". Unfortunately, we, as Linux users, are unable to use the
>> Internet Explorer browser.
>>
>> We feel that this situation is unwarranted. The Mozilla browser supports
>> the Web standards to a level which is not worse, and at times exceeding,
>> that of Internet Explorer. In addition, due to the recurring security
>> problems with Microsoft Windows in general, and Internet Explorer in
>> particular, Mozilla (and other non-IE browsers as well) is actually
>> *more secure* to use.
>>
>> Replying that the majority of users of the site use IE anyway is
>> incorrect in its nature. Of course non-IE users won't access your site
>> once they know that it works with IE only. The situation is worsened by
>> the fact that your site actively disables connections that originate
>> from Mozilla, thus preventing the Mozilla developers from ever fixing
>> compatibility problems if such exist.
>>
>> This situation is unduly discriminating for the Linux and MacOS users,
>> and it stifles the competition in the operating systems and in WWW
>> browsers in Israel.
>>
>> We ask you to support other browsers on your site, or at least stop
>> actively disabling it.
>>
>> With respect,
>> <list of signatures>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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